Book Chat
Covered With Glory
The 26th NC Infantry at the Battle of Gettysburg
Rod Gragg

This chat took place in the Civil War Home Chatroom on 1/29/06 and covered Chapters 5 & 6

1/29/2006 9:05 pm (et) Basecat: Welcome all to the 3rd discussion of Covered With Glory: The 26th North Carolina Infantry at the Battle of Gettysburg. The discussion tonight deals with Chapter 5 "Summer is Ended", and Chapter 6 "Like Wheat Before The Sickle". Reminder to all, no private messages are allowed during the chat, and let's not wander ahead in the story. Let's start with comments and questions on Chapter 5..Summer Is Ended.

1/29/2006 9:06 pm (et) Babs: Was just looking up the 150th PA Inf., but I'll have to talk about that later. Basecat is pounding the gavel.

1/29/2006 9:06 pm (et) jimtno: KS LOL! Got ya. May I start with a comment then?

1/29/2006 9:06 pm (et) Basecat: Fire away Jim.

1/29/2006 9:07 pm (et) jimtno: I think with Gragg's writings you can feel the tension building.

1/29/2006 9:07 pm (et) ks: Interesting that the newspapers making the rounds of the camp were reporting that the Confederates at Vicksburg had soundly WHIPPED Grant's army. First time I've read or considered that those troops might have gone into battle thinking Vicksburg had been won by the CSA.

1/29/2006 9:08 pm (et) ks: Absolutely agree with you there, Jim. The building tensions is palpable.

1/29/2006 9:08 pm (et) Basecat: Absolutely Jim, and he turns up the sense of foreboding that started to appear in last week's homework. Plus he starts to get us acquainted with the regular "Joes" in the various companies of the Regiment.

1/29/2006 9:09 pm (et) Basecat: ks...Reminds me of Post Gettysburg, when Southern Newspapers said that Lee had won at Gettysburg.

1/29/2006 9:09 pm (et) Teej Smith: Interesting that sermon was from Jeremiah, "prophet of doom."

1/29/2006 9:10 pm (et) jimtno: Thanks Base. Its interesting that really nothing has changed in 150 years. Concern over the state of ones soul before a major battle. That has never changed and I suspect never will That really hit home for me at least.

1/29/2006 9:10 pm (et) Basecat: Would be remiss if I did not post that Gragg's descriptions of the terrain west of Gettysburg is one of the better ones I have read in books on the Gettysburg Campaign.

1/29/2006 9:10 pm (et) jimtno: Teej Ah yes very good point.

1/29/2006 9:11 pm (et) Basecat: Teej...Like Burgwyn, I too would have reacted sternly when hearing that message. Kind of an odd way to prepare folks for battle...IMHO.

1/29/2006 9:11 pm (et) ks: Wonderful start too with the soldier's memories of Burgwyn's face and demeanor as that chaplain was preaching on Jeremiah 8:20 about "The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved."

1/29/2006 9:11 pm (et) Basecat: Sternly is the wrong word...more like concern.

1/29/2006 9:12 pm (et) Teej Smith: Burgwyn was asking all the typical questions, no?

1/29/2006 9:12 pm (et) jimtno: Powerful words KS.

1/29/2006 9:13 pm (et) ks: Question for those familiar with the Fayetteville still a town in the area and, if so, any markers or knowledge about where the 26th bivouaced?

1/29/2006 9:13 pm (et) Babs: We had read this part of the saga before, but the town has been on center stage. This action (Pettigrew scouting and his results being poo pooed) occurred off stage. Now we get to see it close up.

1/29/2006 9:14 pm (et) Basecat: ks...Not sure if it is still called Fayetteville...but area where they camped was in the vicinity of the Cashtown Inn.

1/29/2006 9:14 pm (et) jimtno: And then of course what book would be complete if it did not bring in the love interest, But in this case, a true story. Sounds like his one and only true love,...... Brought tears to my eyes,

1/29/2006 9:15 pm (et) jimtno: KS, Actually I can attest to Fayetteville existence. Bev and I know of a conference grounds that is still there. And not that far down 30 is a marker noting Lees HQ the night of 30th.

1/29/2006 9:16 pm (et) A. P. Hill: It is still Fayetteville, and Pettigrew's scouting info was never taken as serious as it should have.

1/29/2006 9:16 pm (et) Teej Smith: Wonder what made the one soldier to think Harry B. wouldn't survive the next battle?

1/29/2006 9:16 pm (et) jimtno: AP. You live in the area around there?

1/29/2006 9:16 pm (et) Basecat: Teej, what got me were the letters he wrote home prior to the battle. He in his way reminded his family of the duty he must do, nd that was his obligation. Main thing he was concerned about was if he should fall, he wanted his remains to be sent back home to NC.

1/29/2006 9:17 pm (et) jimtno: AP Will agree. Whooops got of topic there. Sorry about that. Forgot myself :-)

1/29/2006 9:17 pm (et) Basecat: Teej, Main reason why he felt that way, because of the way Burgwyn was under combat. He went were his soldiers went.

1/29/2006 9:17 pm (et) A. P. Hill: Worked in Gettysburg... this book taps into a couple forgotten or at least less talked about aspects...

1/29/2006 9:17 pm (et) Teej Smith: Think that takes on more importance, Steve since he didn't survive?

1/29/2006 9:18 pm (et) Teej Smith: I mean his sense of doom?

1/29/2006 9:18 pm (et) jimtno: In this case, he was like Longstreet, cant lead from behind.

1/29/2006 9:18 pm (et) Basecat: Teej...Of course it does, but I don't get the sense he had a presentiment of dying...well at least he never came out and said so.

1/29/2006 9:19 pm (et) Babs: Too much info! I didn't know that.

1/29/2006 9:19 pm (et) A. P. Hill: As Basecat said with the author touching on the common Joe he had to touch upon this because of Burgyns way of leading.

1/29/2006 9:20 pm (et) ks: That's kind of confusing to me. :) Book reads that they bivouacked at Fayetteville which you say is near Cashtown Inn. But the Cashtown Inn was surely in Cashtown, wasn't it? Perhaps they're closer than the map makes them appear.

1/29/2006 9:20 pm (et) Teej Smith: Reminds me of the soldier who before every battle, wrote in his diary, "Today I was killed," only to strike through it at the end of the battle and he was still there. :-)

1/29/2006 9:21 pm (et) ks: Anyway...Babs, me neither...although from the emphasis upon his pre-sentiment, I was guessing that to be the case.

1/29/2006 9:21 pm (et) Babs: Yes, we only hear about the premonitions that came true. Many had a sense of foreboding and yet survived, but that doesn't make good press.

1/29/2006 9:22 pm (et) Teej Smith: LOL...good point, Babs.

1/29/2006 9:23 pm (et) Basecat: ks...My Bad...Fayetteville is west of Cashtown...Got the places where they camped mixed up.

1/29/2006 9:23 pm (et) Teej Smith: Reading about Harrison, I was reminded of that line from THE MOVIE....

1/29/2006 9:23 pm (et) Basecat: Folks...It was mentioned in Harry's day one book what happened to Burgwyn...

1/29/2006 9:24 pm (et) Babs: KS, I guessed it too, but he still lives in this week's homework. There were those who hinted of Jackson's demise when we were reading about Chancellorsville.

1/29/2006 9:24 pm (et) jimtno: There is another description that caught my eye,. The 26th waking up, stirring sleepily as they get orders to break camp. Can see Sgts and Lts, going from place to place in camp, shaking men awake, smoke from smoldering fires hanging in the summer early morning air.

1/29/2006 9:24 pm (et) Basecat: That sermon sticks with me though. Not an inspiring talk to give at that time.

1/29/2006 9:25 pm (et) Teej Smith: But typical for Victorians, don't you think, Steve?

1/29/2006 9:25 pm (et) Babs: Base, I have forgotten that and several thousand other facts from that book. I have a feeling I will retain more of what in this one.

1/29/2006 9:25 pm (et) Zolli: Basecat, I just don't think you know what you're talking about.

1/29/2006 9:25 pm (et) ks: Same here, Teej. Reading about Longstreet's spy certainly brings THE MOVIE to mind. Basecat, come on. You expect us to recall a detail like that from Pfanz?? zzzzzzzzz........... ;)

1/29/2006 9:26 pm (et) Basecat: Teej...Shows I ain't no Victorian..:) Yeah...typical..:)

1/29/2006 9:26 pm (et) ks: Zolli. :D

1/29/2006 9:26 pm (et) Basecat: Zolli...Some things never change...Continue to babble ad nauseum here..:)

1/29/2006 9:26 pm (et) jimtno: Zolli LOL!

1/29/2006 9:27 pm (et) Zolli: I really apologize for my lengthy absence. Is this a book-chat tonight?

1/29/2006 9:27 pm (et) ks: And I agree with you totally, Babs. I expect to retain more from THIS book because Gragg personalized it for me. I feel like I've got something invested in these people since he's built us up to know something about them.

1/29/2006 9:27 pm (et) jimtno: But all kidding aside, Battle is looming they can all sense it, yet it takes em a while to wake up and get moving.

1/29/2006 9:28 pm (et) Babs: KS, This book is good enough to be on Monday night :^)

1/29/2006 9:28 pm (et) jimtno: Zolli you got it!

1/29/2006 9:28 pm (et) ks: THIRD discussion over "Covered with Glory : The 26th North Carolina Infantry at the Battle of Gettysburg" by Rod Gragg, chapters 5-6 are on topic, Zolli.

1/29/2006 9:28 pm (et) A. P. Hill: Well you always have the calm before the storm

1/29/2006 9:28 pm (et) Basecat: ks and Babs...That's why I love reading books like this...More focused, and becomes an intensely personal thing with me as I read along.

1/29/2006 9:29 pm (et) Zolli: Very good. I read that book ... a while ago.

1/29/2006 9:29 pm (et) Teej Smith: Like the story about Pvt. "Jimmie" Moore.

1/29/2006 9:29 pm (et) Babs: He makes the FFF parts understandable, as you mentioned about the terrain.

1/29/2006 9:30 pm (et) Teej Smith: Imagine being a "two year veteran" at age 17. Sigh.......

1/29/2006 9:30 pm (et) A. P. Hill: nah basecat, personally anyone can.  It is a lot easier to get involved into a person or company compared to some books where you only know the men by regiment number.

1/29/2006 9:30 pm (et) Basecat: And Babs...for the most part, what has been read thus far still looks like it today.

1/29/2006 9:31 pm (et) jimtno: Base. That is so true.

1/29/2006 9:31 pm (et) ks: The accounts about Jimmie Moore and "The Globe" area of NC do add to the story, Teej. BTW that area still referred to as "The Globe"??

1/29/2006 9:32 pm (et) jimtno: Back to the book for a minute, once in line they cover 7 miles quickly and then come upon the good Dr. Love the exchange there and then the BIG UHOH!

1/29/2006 9:32 pm (et) Zolli: It is so different and so much more profound to walk up out of that Willoughby Run gulch after reading Gragg's book and thinking of the individuals.

1/29/2006 9:32 pm (et) Basecat: Teej, and it seems Private Moore became sort of a mascot for those in the Regiment.

1/29/2006 9:32 pm (et) Babs: Base, Yes. I kept thinking, "I've been there!". It will mean more next time.

1/29/2006 9:32 pm (et) Teej Smith: Sorry, ks, I'm not familiar with the western part of the state.

1/29/2006 9:33 pm (et) ks: Gragg plans to join us yet for some Sunday night discussion of his book, Zolli. Not tonight...but some night.

1/29/2006 9:34 pm (et) Basecat: Jim...Love the line the Doc told Pettigrew...and he was right...those soldiers were not in town...they were west of town..;)

1/29/2006 9:34 pm (et) Babs: By my math, it will take just three more sessions.

1/29/2006 9:34 pm (et) Zolli: May I ask a quick off-topic? Is it true that muster is at Gettysburg this year?

1/29/2006 9:35 pm (et) Basecat: Anymore comments on Chapter 5??

1/29/2006 9:35 pm (et) ks: Very true.

1/29/2006 9:35 pm (et) Teej Smith: Odd that Pettigrew was entrusted with the assignment of recon in force.

1/29/2006 9:35 pm (et) Basecat: Zolli...Yep...hence why we have been reading about Gettysburg for the past few months..:)

1/29/2006 9:35 pm (et) jimtno: And then Pettigrew sees the troopers and knows IMMEDIATELY it isn't militia! I just went back and reread. No indication of how he knew. He just KNEW. Go figure.

1/29/2006 9:36 pm (et) Basecat: Jim...Main reason why I think he knew...Unlike militia, they did not run away.

1/29/2006 9:36 pm (et) Zolli: Excellent! Mrs. Zolli and I will see you there. Love to all. Zollicoffer - awayyyy!

1/29/2006 9:36 pm (et) ks: Appreciated the info on the Black Hats.

1/29/2006 9:37 pm (et) jimtno: They way Gragg writes you can picture the look on Pettigrews face. Talk about an ah **** moment! :-)

1/29/2006 9:37 pm (et) Basecat: ks...Just to add...the area where the Black Hats crossed to get to McPherson's Ridge becomes very important on Day 3...:)

1/29/2006 9:37 pm (et) Zolli: logs off.

1/29/2006 9:38 pm (et) Teej Smith: Like Grumble Jones at Brandy, the inclination to let Hill and Heth find out the hard way must have been strong.

1/29/2006 9:38 pm (et) jimtno: AH Yes and now we get to my favorite boys! Them D*mn black hatted fellas!"

1/29/2006 9:39 pm (et) ks: Of course I'd seen reference to the Iron Brigade in many places previously. But until this read I didn't know that was "the formal 1858 U.S. Army black dress hat" they were wearing.

1/29/2006 9:39 pm (et) Basecat: Lets move on to Chapter 6.

1/29/2006 9:40 pm (et) Basecat: Teej, What struck me, after Hill did not believe Pettigrew, he had his Captain try to convince him as well, but to no avail.

1/29/2006 9:40 pm (et) Babs: Chap. 6 is when we get details about many more of the boys. Amazing how many relatives were serving together.

1/29/2006 9:40 pm (et) jimtno: KS In June I will try to remember to bring my Troiani book on the dress . Picture of the IRON Brigade in there. Great painting and one of my favorites.

1/29/2006 9:40 pm (et) ks: In Chapter 6 he sure drives home the point about how many of these soldiers were there fighting along with other family members.

1/29/2006 9:40 pm (et) ks: Babs :)

1/29/2006 9:41 pm (et) Babs: :^)

1/29/2006 9:41 pm (et) Basecat: ks and Babs...Especially that one company that all seemed to be related in one way or another.

1/29/2006 9:41 pm (et) Teej Smith: Considering how small these communities, imagine how traumatic it was to read casualty reports.

1/29/2006 9:42 pm (et) Babs: As Gragg said, every man had his own story.

1/29/2006 9:44 pm (et) Teej Smith: The men of Caldwell County, for the most part, came from very large families.

1/29/2006 9:44 pm (et) Basecat: Teej...Not sure the familial angle was as strong on the Union side as it was with the Southern troops. By that I mean not as dramatic in terms of brothers, and cousins etc. all in the same regiment. Know there are instances of that, but not on a scale as the 26th.

1/29/2006 9:44 pm (et) Babs: Is there a good bio of Thaddeus Stevens?

1/29/2006 9:44 pm (et) ks: No kidding, Teej. I've often thought that emphasizing how often numerous family members served together would be a great point to emphasize when talking in high schools about the war. My kids attend a school where many kids have cousins all over the place. To enter a classroom and be able to state "Imagine your cousins Jake, Evan, and Vince along with your brothers Thomas and Charlie were all in the same unit and ___,___, ___ were wounded and ___ didn't come home. If you get my drift. I think it would startle the heck out of them to personalize that way.

1/29/2006 9:45 pm (et) Teej Smith: Vance and Davis had some serious words about putting soldiers from the same area together.

1/29/2006 9:45 pm (et) Basecat: Babs..Yes there is, and I read it this summer. Hans Trefousse wrote a fine bio. of Stevens. Came out in 1994 and is printed by the UNC Press. Fascinating book, and as one loathe to read political stuff...Best book I read this past Summer.

1/29/2006 9:46 pm (et) jimtno: Once again I do find it interesting how Gragg intertwines the individual. I can imagine a fresh faced teen of 17 along side a veteran of 20 or 22.

1/29/2006 9:46 pm (et) ks: "Serious words" meaning what, Teej?

1/29/2006 9:47 pm (et) Babs: Base, Thanks. Seems like his name keeps popping up.

1/29/2006 9:47 pm (et) ks: I mean were they both opposed to it or one disagreeing with the other on the point?

1/29/2006 9:47 pm (et) jimtno: And the thundering of the two arty batteries not that far away.

1/29/2006 9:47 pm (et) Teej Smith: When I spoke to various schools I would have the students line up and count off. Then I would tell them that everyone with the such and such number was "dead." Very effective.

1/29/2006 9:47 pm (et) Basecat: Jim or the one soldier being grateful that his father was not with them that day.

1/29/2006 9:48 pm (et) Basecat: Babs...Stevens used to live in Gettysburg, just west of the Town Square . Can show you where he lived when we are there in June.

1/29/2006 9:48 pm (et) Teej Smith: Davis had promised that N.C. soldiers would serve together. Once they reached Petersburg , that promis was broken. Vance told Davis to "fix it" or he would bring his men home.

1/29/2006 9:48 pm (et) jimtno: Does any one else sense that Gragg is trying to create a well large mosaic or tapestry of even a moving living painting? I remember closign my eyes and seeing this almost like a slow motion movie. A replay of sorts.

1/29/2006 9:49 pm (et) Basecat: Jim...Had the same feeling, and have walked that ground quite a bit as you know, and painted a fine picture here as I read it.

1/29/2006 9:50 pm (et) Teej Smith: IMO, Gragg's use of background stories on the men, "forces" one to form a personal attachment to these men, Jim.

1/29/2006 9:51 pm (et) Babs: When the shooting finally started, Gragg said "the sound of infantry fire echoed above the countryside like a loud slow ripping of cloth." That let me imagine the exact sound.

1/29/2006 9:51 pm (et) Basecat: BTW...area where they were waiting until ordered to attack is now on the grounds of the local Golf club down there...

1/29/2006 9:52 pm (et) Babs: Rte. 30?

1/29/2006 9:52 pm (et) jimtno: And it as one author once wrote, a low steady roar! Babs, A great description of what was going on.

1/29/2006 9:53 pm (et) jimtno: Babs, The Chambersburg Pike.  It's Rt 30 now.

1/29/2006 9:53 pm (et) Basecat: Also, as noted by the commanders of the 19th Indiana, and the 24th Michigan, when down there you will be able to see what they meant about having their lines at the crest of that hill.

1/29/2006 9:53 pm (et) Teej Smith: Living only 30 miles from Ft. Bragg I get to hear artillery fire on a fairly regular basis. It doesn't take long for me feel the sound as tedious. I can only imagine how it would feel to know that that sound was directed at you.

1/29/2006 9:54 pm (et) Basecat: Babs...26th NC were in position just south of the Chambersburg Pike...which is as Jim points out. Rte. 30.

1/29/2006 9:54 pm (et) jimtno: Its also interesting how it increases in intensity. Louder and louder. I don't think it would be tedious for me, I think I would be shaking in my shoes!

1/29/2006 9:55 pm (et) Teej Smith: I used the wrong word, Jim. I find myself listening for the next round.

1/29/2006 9:55 pm (et) jimtno: Also Keep in mind that the 24th Mich. and 19th Indiana have swapped places.

1/29/2006 9:56 pm (et) ks: Reading about awaiting battle by laying on your belly, chatting "cheerfully"...that's something I can't make real in my own mind. Wow...

1/29/2006 9:56 pm (et) Teej Smith: IMO, Gragg nails it when he describes the wait as "agonizing slowness."

1/29/2006 9:57 pm (et) jimtno: I kinda of figured that,. Folks I have had an uncle who has been in combat (WWII) and one of my closest dearest friends, Vietnam. You never get use to it. The crack of a round going over your head or hitting flesh is just shocking to the senses according to them.

1/29/2006 9:57 pm (et) Teej Smith: KS, think it might have been a bit of "whistling in the dark?"

1/29/2006 9:57 pm (et) Basecat: ks...Same here, and the images of those just looking at photos of their loved Teej points out, the waiting had to be unbearable.

1/29/2006 9:57 pm (et) ks: BTW I don't recall if it was this chapter or the previous, but the description of the road to battle being littered with playing cards that soldiers had discarded was another colorful mental picture. :)

1/29/2006 9:59 pm (et) jimtno: KS, ans Teej, I think that is a very valid point. Trying to show the others they were not scared,... Uh huh.,

1/29/2006 9:59 pm (et) jimtno: KS, I have been struck by that in other books as well. It happened at Antietam.

1/29/2006 10:00 pm (et) Teej Smith: Having dice was also a no-no.

1/29/2006 10:00 pm (et) Babs: KS, I just heard that mentioned on a Civil War Journal, that they didn't want to die with those sinful cards on them.

1/29/2006 10:00 pm (et) Basecat: Happened in quite a few places...Interesting to read what they were thinking and doing as they marched into a battle.

1/29/2006 10:01 pm (et) Basecat: Other thing that hit me...some were upset that they had no religious service before entering into the battle...and how that would have been a comforting thing.

1/29/2006 10:01 pm (et) Teej Smith: I've always imagined that while waiting for the battle to start they kept up that sense of bravado and then they put a mental screen around themselves and concentrated on the "here and now."

1/29/2006 10:03 pm (et) jimtno: I was wondering if I could move on a bit?

1/29/2006 10:04 pm (et) Basecat: Fire away Jim.

1/29/2006 10:05 pm (et) ks: Meaning what? If you're going to give away a "biggie" from a future chapter, warn me. I'll log off now. ;)

1/29/2006 10:05 pm (et) jimtno: I was struick by how as they moved across the field of wheat, perfect formation, and then the first volley from the Iron Brigade. And its short. They return and then keep moving.......... Can close my eyes and just picture that.

1/29/2006 10:06 pm (et) ks: But the next volley finds its mark and they fall in those waist high oats.

1/29/2006 10:06 pm (et) Basecat: Jim...Topography. If you notice, the next volley was high...Once they got close to the run, that's when the Union fire became effective.

1/29/2006 10:06 pm (et) Babs: Can't imagine being able to continue walking into that.

1/29/2006 10:07 pm (et) jimtno: And then from Gragg, the next Volley from the Yankees and "It hit true"..... He delivers the shock of that with just those short words, It HIT TRUE! ......... :(

1/29/2006 10:07 pm (et) ks: Perhaps if you had comrades all around you that continued to walk, you'd find the strength. That's what I imagine.

1/29/2006 10:08 pm (et) Basecat: Will just add, that this part of the Battle of Gettysburg is a soldier's fight. Artillery was not that big of a factor in this phase of the battle.

1/29/2006 10:08 pm (et) Babs: Good leadership to keep them from breaking.

1/29/2006 10:09 pm (et) jimtno: Oh my how that brings tears to my eyes.

1/29/2006 10:09 pm (et) Basecat: Babs...which is what the 26th had. Lane on the right, Burgwyn in the Center and Major Jones on the left.

1/29/2006 10:10 pm (et) Babs: Just kids themselves

1/29/2006 10:11 pm (et) Basecat: Exactly Babs, which strikes me here every time I am out there walking around.

1/29/2006 10:11 pm (et) jimtno: Can imagine the quote, like wheat before the sickle! A murderous fire!

1/29/2006 10:12 pm (et) jimtno: Folks, as "Darn Yankee", this is where I get pulled into the sacrifice of both sides. The Courage, the sense of Duty and from kids. Both Sides!

1/29/2006 10:13 pm (et) Teej Smith: Reminds me so much of the "murder" of Iverson's men. Sorry.

1/29/2006 10:14 pm (et) Basecat: Jim, and just to add...Colonel Morrow of the 24th Michigan was born in Virginia, and Gragg had a great line that while they shared a kinship as to their Southern roots, today they were the enemy.

1/29/2006 10:15 pm (et) ks: Good book and I appreciate sharing it with you all. But I'd also appreciate a meal and getting some more work done yet this evening. Homework's already on YODB. Peace, you all.

1/29/2006 10:15 pm (et) Babs: I was near where he is buried on New Years, but the snow was too deep for me to go look for him. I will one day.

1/29/2006 10:16 pm (et) jimtno: Teej, I agree I thought of that as well.

1/29/2006 10:16 pm (et) Basecat: Teej...Thought the same, but in Iverson's case he was not with his men, which bothers me even more.

1/29/2006 10:16 pm (et) Basecat: Babs..If you do go...take some pictures. Would love to see where he is buried.

1/29/2006 10:17 pm (et) jimtno: Basecat you beat me to it. Iverson was a coward, Burgwyn, Lane? Nope.

1/29/2006 10:17 pm (et) Teej Smith: What bothers me the most is Iverson, not knowing his men were dead, called them cowards.

1/29/2006 10:17 pm (et) Babs: Will do, Base.

1/29/2006 10:18 pm (et) jimtno: Teej, IMHO , Iverson should have been given a rifle and put in the front rank on July 3.

1/29/2006 10:18 pm (et) Basecat: Teej...same here...How he could say that from where he was boggles the mind here.

1/29/2006 10:19 pm (et) Teej Smith: I know I'm going way off topic here, but I get chills every time I think of Iverson's men clinging to the Timothy grass and praying for it to be over.

1/29/2006 10:19 pm (et) Babs: It's a school night, so I need to head out. See you tomorrow at the Soldiers Home.

1/29/2006 10:19 pm (et) Basecat: Thanks all for a fine chat. No chat next week due to the Super Bowl. Sunday Night Chat will resume on February 12th. Homework will be Chapters 7 and 8.